In reflecting on different understandings of spirituality, Fr. Nicolás noted, “It’s interesting to see that in the whole of what we call ‘Oriental spirituality,’ the Middle East, spirituality is all transformation. It’s divinization and something that is not reduced to the religious, but to the whole community. That’s why they say sometimes, without understanding fully the Latin church, that they don’t have religious and they don’t need them, because the spirituality of the Gospel is for everyone. They are right in that. The thing is, we could sit down and talk a little more about other aspects…”